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Post by Bryan Dacote Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:46 pm

I'm a big history buff on the events of the 1920's to mid 1940's - basically what I like to call "the World War 2 Era" because I've always looked at the economic downfall that was effecting Europe and the US to be tied in with the rise of WWII.

I've been reading alot of the news on the net and well... I think instead of having to reword everything I'm just gonna copy and paste what I said on a recent post on facebook (I'll paste the link of the article I read that prompted me to write it) I warn you; I swore in parts of this.
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Here's the Article: http://www.occupydemocrats.com/trumps-anti-muslim-bigotry-has-provoked-two-hate-crimes-a-day-since-paris/

.....what the fuck. what. the. actual. FUCK?

This string of Islamophobia is fucking insane. As i hear this shit every fucking day I get more and more fearful - not for the lives of the innocent people who are being targeted (read the attacks in this, some of the victims weren't even fucking Muslim, they were targeted just for looking like Muslims) but because I am terrified because I can seeing history literally repeat itself over again.

the 1920's to mid 1940's is of significant historical interest to me. Back then in Germany - even before the Nazi party came to power the situation was highly unstable in Germany because of the economic and political downfall of the country and how the people were paying for it. People had a lot of pent up anger due to the heavy loss from WWI. When Adolf Hitler rose through the ranks of the Nazi party and as he gained more and more power he became drunk on it. Due to his harsh background he was racist against Jews - as well much of Germany. Adolf guided that pent up anger of the people to not just support his Nazi party but to push on bigotry against the Jews - even ones whom were completely innocent of any crime. Any high school student could tell you that not too long later Hitler started WWII - the bloodiest war in human history.

I see the bigotry and anger in the world all pointing their guns at a people who happen to share the same origins of terrorists. The Republican party - namely Trump are so bent on pinning all of the pent up anger of the American people who have suffered through war after war, two notorious terrorist attacks, and an economic downfall with no signs of ending. I can see where this is going and it is legit scaring me.

I am really for Sanders - hell even Clinton will do at this point for me (and I don't like Hillary) not just because I feel he would better the economy but also in a way I look at him the same way as my favorite president Franklin D. Roosevelt who was (imo) the proverbial opposite to the crap over in Germany. Sanders from what I can see is really against this racial crap and is really trying to remove that from the equation where the Republican party just keeps putting fuel on the fire. FDR and Sanders share a lot of the same ideas and beliefs and that furthers my hopes on him.

From what things are playing through right now - WWIII doesn't seem like something that would only show up in our nightmares or in the fictional realm of video games, movies, TV shows or novels. To me; WWIII hasn't seemed as close as it is now.

For the love of all things pure; make this bullshit STOP!

What is your thoughts on the similar signs between the 1930's~ and now?
Another parallel I have noticed (however I know very little on this so I can't really support it) is that in what I've been hearing of the current leader of Russia - he seems as... crazy as Joseph Stalin from the time. Also note that Russia had a big political change in the 1910's and another in the 1990's - about 20 years prior to events that would lead to WWII and to what some believe to be an up and coming WWIII (assuming things between Russia, the US, Turkey and the middle east are going)
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Post by jordan_mikuza Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:54 am

:3 history always repeat itself one way or another even if we know not to make that mistake
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Post by MonjaElisa Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:45 pm

LOL! Donald trump isnt gonna win with his nonsencial propotions. people keep him in the votings for the laughs... he is made a lacking stock for the world, even norwegian newscasts indirectly bully him. I respect him for being honest, but he is not gonna win.... and besides.. worst case scenario if he did win... nothing would change... its not only the president making desicions. The guy is but a mere puppet and face to display the decisions. So all he says like what people do in politics... they make false promises.. its nothing to worry about.. xD
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Post by Bryan Dacote Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:10 pm

I can still see him possibly winning because mostly older voters prefer Trump over Clinton or Sanders.

However I am seeing a lot of younger people - our age - who normally wouldn't vote and changing their minds and are going to because they aren't liking what the Republicans are saying.

In a strange fucked up way, Trump's idiocy is helping attract young voters so they can vote against him.
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Post by MonjaElisa Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:41 pm

Trump is a celebrity, not a president... he likes the attention, thats all there id.. he enrolled for fun and attention.. there is no way he will win, because nobody wants him as president.. he is only recieving trollvotes.. or boredvotes xD
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Post by Bryan Dacote Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:18 pm

No, there is serious Trump supporters.

In Boston, MA (same state I live in) a man of Mexican decent was beaten to near death and those whom beat him said it was because "Trump said so".

Last month a Muslim taxi driver was giving a man a ride. The Passenger asked if the driver was Muslim and said yes. After taking the passenger to his home, he said he needed to go get his "wallet", when he returned he was brandishing a rifle and shot at the Muslim taxi driver twice. The driver sped away but not getting his by one of the bullets in the shoulder. The driver was lucky to have survived.

Since I work at a public place I meet and talk to lots of different people of different ages, genders and beliefs. I've met a good amount of Trump supporters. I even wanted to punch a Special Needs kid who is a coworker because he kept going on how he wants to kill Muslims and shit and how much he agrees with Trump.
Of course a lot of people I have talked to think Trump and the rest of the Republicans are nuts.
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Post by SadJester Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:27 am

Yes. The similarities between the 1930s and now are quite distinct. The world is just recovering from a financial crash-just like in the 1930s. The socio-economic situation makes it conducive for the rise of populist right-wing politicians like Trump, Nigel Farage in England, Marine Le Pen in France. Substantial and drawn out military conflicts are raging, broadly similar to unrest in the 1930s. Of course are differences between the two time periods but it is definitely interesting to note the similarities.
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Post by Bryan Dacote Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:59 pm

Its those similarities that scare me. Honestly I fear the results could be far worse than those of the 30's and 40's.

So many people - both in power and the common people - are thinking like Trump which is similar to Hitler who only had the backing of an originally small grass-roots political group. There were several small groups like the Nazi party in the 20's.

If a third World War breaks out I guess the cause is from the shadows of the corruption that followed from WWII.
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Post by SadJester Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:28 am

It doesn't seem like humanity is really learning from its mistakes. People just have to look at history and study it to avoid some of the errors. A third world war would unfortunately be much more devastating with modern weaponry.

It looks like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz are rallying in the polls. Ted Cruz toasted bacon on his gun in one of his ads though, hahaha.
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Post by jordan_mikuza Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:31 am

MonjaElisa wrote:Trump is a celebrity, not a president... he likes the attention, thats all there id.. he enrolled for fun and attention.. there is no way he will win, because nobody wants him as president.. he is only receiving trollvotes.. or boredvotes xD

no monja there are serious (very serious trump supporters) and if there are people making bored or trolled votes then they obviously don't know the impact those votes have
he would be in charge of our COUNTRY thats not something to be taken lightly
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