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Post by jordan_mikuza on Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:32 pm

feminism what is it? please explain
what are your views on it?
this can come from both women and men
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Post by Lee Seung Gi on Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:35 pm

For me its basically equal rights for women nothing more nothing less :3
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Post by Bryan Dacote on Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:36 pm

I think its basically when woman kind is put either above or below men.

Many many moons ago women used to be treated as inferior to men. Now women are basically on par or in some ways above men.
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Post by Raven on Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:36 pm

I think it's equal rights for both genders.
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Post by jordan_mikuza on Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:40 pm

I see
well I'm going to put my opinion in this
it's stupid based on what bryan said if it's women going above men it's not right in a way because women will then look down upon men like men did in the 1800s when women were not allowed to vote, yes women were looked down upon and still may be looked down upon but it doesn't mean we have to do that Same (maybe I'm reading the whole thing wrong)
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Post by Bryan Dacote on Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:34 pm

Back then women had little to no rights. They had more than a black man yes.
As the rights for women are equal to Men's now. But in many cases (and yes I'm gonna mention this one) such as rape its women who usually get more attention than if a man was raped. Same thing with custody battles over kids. The mother is not always the better choice in raising the child depending on the situation.
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Post by jordan_mikuza on Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:35 pm

yeah that's true
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Post by Hyera on Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:41 pm

women and men both are different.
they can be similar but still have lot of certain things that men could Not understand
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Post by jordan_mikuza on Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:43 pm

that's true as well
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Post by Bryan Dacote on Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:48 pm

Hyera wrote:women and men both are different.
they can be similar but still have lot of certain things that men could Not  understand

Very true. When I mentioned the custody battles here with some mothers not deserving the kids I said it with experience. My cousin has had 3 kids (one is 10, the other 5, the last is about 10 months) (all with different fathers mind you) and she has not been in any form of stable living or mental conditions to take care of a child.
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Post by Hyera on Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:55 pm

Bryan Dacote wrote:

Very true. When I mentioned the custody battles here with some mothers not deserving the kids I said it with experience. My cousin has had 3 kids (one is 10, the other 5, the last is about 10 months) (all with different fathers mind you) and she has not been in any form of stable living or mental conditions to take care of a child.


Women's Physical & Mental(emotional) health may affect their surrounding
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Post by jordan_mikuza on Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:01 pm

yep
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Post by boundbyluck on Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:06 pm

you want to talk about feminism as a cause? or feminism from the mindset of a feminazi?
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Post by jordan_mikuza on Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:07 pm

1st one and maybe second? as long as its not offensive to all girls and just feminists who take it too far
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Post by boundbyluck on Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:16 pm

ok the first one, is where women want equal rights on ALL aspects. Mind you some countries give more rights to women than the U.S. the reason why feminism is a strong movement in the states is in comparison to those other countries who are seen as "lesser" nations.
Military, political (not one women elected as president and never a really strong one supported by others), and other aspects including healthcare. Since the olden days women were treated like lesser parts of society, and as time went by they began to gain rights. However a lot of women still believe they are given less rights than men, and sometimes even treated "nicer".

Truth be told you can't expect all women to be on equal terms with men. Either physically or emotionally, because of our different biology more than anything. We do not suffer through menstruation, we don't have random mood swings through most of our lives, and so forth. So because of this there is a criteria that gives some preferential status to some females, but still puts them below males because of these same aspects. Also women in general from some corporate viewpoints are seen more as a seductive attribute instead of a management attribute. Even though it is a misogynistic point of view it is still carried out by a lot of the higher tiers of corporations.
So all in all, they deserve to fight for more rights, this is true, but they can not be in equal terms because that would mean equal treatment. And guess what men don't take time off that is payed to go have children. So if they were to be treated equally they would lose their jobs, and most women would even be able to keep up with the physical tasks some men are asked in jobs.

As for the second one ... feminazi's are mental cases, where they believe feminism means being above men in all aspects in society. In other words they rule over us, and don't you dare fight back. To them equality doesn't mean that if she hits you, you are allowed to hit her back. No if she hits you ... you stand there like a little bitch and do what she tells you. And this is a "NICE" example of what they believe to be their "rights".
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Post by Hyera on Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:14 am

good good~
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Post by disfox on Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:41 am

jordan_mikuza wrote:feminism what is it? please explain
what are your views on it?
this can come from both women and men
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See now i had a word that i like to use.. Since Feminism is become such a bad word.
(both men and women alike have destroyed it in my opinion)
But i forget it.. ((its 2 am.. bwaaa)
But to me, it means being equal..
In saying that, every day i INSURE my actions are equal.
I'll be the first to open the door and hold it for a man.
On a date i'll be the first to offer to pay for it all, or pitch in
I'll be the first most of the time to strict up a comushion,
and for most jobs be the first to volenture to do it.
Hell i can pull up bushes in the yard and other such heavy duty tasks.

I dont wanna be 'better' then a man, i dont want to be under a man.
I want 50/50
im a human being, your a human being..
Lets just be nice!

or thats just me..
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Post by Bryan Dacote on Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:48 am

You madam are a saint
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Post by disfox on Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:23 am

Bryan Dacote wrote:You madam are a saint
huh i'm normly called a Devil.
XDD
But then again thats coming from Men that i've challenged there words
" How dare she tell me what to do in MY HOUSE!"
" umm dosnt the government pay your rent?"
" Yea but."
" so really its the governments house, "
" buts she a"
" at the same leavel as you, and isent she a Mangier?" the guy in this story was a dishwasher
" well yea but!"
i just shrugged..
" so.. how does any of this make you think your above her?"

ps.. they where arguing over him spending to much money on beer.. vs.. food..
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Post by .... on Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:31 am

If you talking the feminazi movement then anything goes but equality should be the name of their movement
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Post by jordan_mikuza on Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:07 am

okay well I don't think if women want to be treated equally it doesn't mean men have to lose their jobs I mean women work too not just men
what I mean is basically what disfox says we basically want 50/50
I'm basically the same if I wasn't quiet I would challenge their words most of the time but I mean we want to be treated fairly (I'm not a feminist I just feel strongly about this)
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Post by disfox on Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:44 am

jordan_mikuza wrote:okay well I don't think if women want to be treated equally it doesn't mean men have to lose their jobs I mean women work too not just men
what I mean is basically what disfox says we basically want 50/50
I'm basically the same if I wasn't quiet I would challenge their words most of the time but I mean we want to be treated fairly (I'm not a feminist I just feel strongly about this)
You feel strongly for equality but not a feminist...


See this is what i mean, got a bad taste in ur mouth from the gals screaming feminist but be smacking a guy and demanding not to be hit back cuss there a women
(or i imagine)
i well say its okay to stand up for yourself, its actully fun ... in a wierd twisted.. way..

idk

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Post by rinatanchu on Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:21 pm

I consider myself a feminist and yes, feminism implies equality for both women and men.

However, just because we stand for equality, a lot of guys think "So I can hit a girl, right?" Yes, you have the ability to hit a girl. You have to ability to hit a child etc. Should you? Why are guys obsessed with hitting? Why should we hit?

Instead, it should be taken into consideration about things like sports: take a girl seriously! If you and a girl are boxing or wrestling, take her seriously. If you are playing soccer with a girl, don't think she is worried she will break a nail or get hurt cuz she may just hurt you when trying to get the ball.

I've seen this happen to little kids playing sports and the girls take more time in to practice because they want to prove themselves to the boys that they are playing seriously. That is what feminism is about in this aspect.
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Post by boundbyluck on Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:47 pm

Rina the hitting aspect is in retort that if a woman hits a man in the twisted form of feminism a man is not supposed to fight back.
When in reality if you are treated as a equal ... well you get the idea. You get what you deserve on equal terms.

Sports ... skills some women are superior to men but the number is small, and the ones who could physically match and compete with men is fewer. Biology is the aspect behind it, its got nothing to do with breaking nail. Matter of fact most sports girls are more tomboys than boys are boys at times.
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Post by rinatanchu on Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:48 pm

@boundby Yes, I understand that. I am just curious as to why guys are obsessed with hitting people.
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